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La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.24 20:28:00 -
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I didn't read the thread yet but I'm willing to wager half of the thread is npc alt miners whining and posting the same terrible arguments over and over again.
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La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.24 21:12:00 -
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You know I'd think CCP would want miners being ganked as it makes the mining bot problem less significant, it helps to keep the profession's income up, it helps the economy, and it provides amusement to people who patiently must wait a year or two for CCP to fix the part of the game they live in. I'm to lazy to look up the quote for moronic npc alts but I remember somewhere a CCP guy saying that it was currently too difficult to differentiate between an actual miner and a bot so I'll leave this screenshot here as an example of the state of this problem.
http://imgur.com/DbL17
For those that have trouble understanding, look at what is typed and look at what the search box suggests, I'm surprised it is so high in the suggestions.
Revert mining ship EHP buffs (except for the procuror and skiff).
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La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.24 22:09:00 -
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Arec Bardwin wrote:La Nariz wrote:I didn't read the thread yet but I'm willing to wager half of the thread is npc alt miners whining and posting the same terrible arguments over and over again. So, much like the gankers then? 
[X] Member of NPC corp,
[X] Terrible at posting,
[X] Thinks their opinion matters.
Maybe CCP will patch posting so you miners won't have so much trouble forming intelligent arguments and corroborating them.
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La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.25 16:23:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:La Nariz wrote:You know I'd think CCP would want miners being ganked as it makes the mining bot problem less significant, it helps to keep the profession's income up, it helps the economy, and it provides amusement to people who patiently must wait a year or two for CCP to fix the part of the game they live in. I'm to lazy to look up the quote for moronic npc alts but I remember somewhere a CCP guy saying that it was currently too difficult to differentiate between an actual miner and a bot so I'll leave this screenshot here as an example of the state of this problem. http://imgur.com/DbL17For those that have trouble understanding, look at what is typed and look at what the search box suggests, I'm surprised it is so high in the suggestions. Revert mining ship EHP buffs (except for the procuror and skiff). "Eve ratting" had "Eve ratting bot" as the 2nd suggestion. Botting is not a problem isolated to mining and exhumer EHP being what it was didn't stop people from doing it before. Additionally given the evidence of the number of mining bots banned (mining bot forum comments, etc) it would suggest that their detection methods have improved or the comment was inaccurate.
You are correct, the point that differentiates them is that its much easier to catch ratting bots so they are a lesser problem than mining bots. This might mean that EVE pve needs a huge rework in general.
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La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.25 20:02:00 -
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Iskemi wrote:I don't understand something...
The goons (and that creepy faced baltec guy) keep saying ganking miners was profitable. How was it profitable? did they drop loot?
Sorry for being ignorant...
Basically it was only profitable if the miner was untanked (stupid). The profit from the gank was from the stripminers and T2 salvage that dropped. Cost could be controlled by looting/salvaging your own ships as well. With the EHP buffs its pointless now as its no longer profitable to gank stupid miners anymore. The smart miners that tanked their ship were never in any danger in the first place as they were already unprofitable.
I guess the next step is to get DBRB to have a rookie ship gank op in highsec.
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